I think that Dick is full of crap. He was telling Daniele that they can "run this house.
No one in here has a bond like us." Whatever.
He was telling Jen later in the evening that
she needs to go. If Jen put her on the block that she would be doing what she had to do. How fake. I don't recall him mentioning this to Daniele at any point. The only reason that he is in the house is because of her. He's lucky that he evens gets this time with her, and he's still screwing it up. I don't think that he'll ever change. That's very sad.

You all remember that daniele is only twenty and that her dad dumped her at his parents house because he couldn't handle being a father. Since their argument is over something to do with money, i wonder how much he gave his parents to support her, and if he loaned her money a few years back and she did not pay him back, well just maybe he should let it go.

They are too painful to watch. I do feel sorry for ED...I think that wahtever it is they need to resolve might not happen under these cirsumstances. I hope so, but I think not. Her body language tells it all.

Daniele is trying to be everything that her father is not. He talks and talks and talks and talks. She says nothing. It seems the more he talks, the less she does.

Sure - he "dumped" her at his parents - - but where is MOM in this equation? At least she didn't end up in foster care. At least he didn't put her up for adoption. And I don't know many men who, at 20, would have been "able" single dads. Of course, at 40+, Dick is still struggling with how to be a dad.

No - Dick's not the perfect dad. And Danielle's not the perfect daughter. I think that, at some point, Daniele might regret pushing him away. But - she is only 20. And, like her Dad did when he was 20, she is "abandoning" him. History repeats itself. Cats-in-the-cradle stuff.

She'll keep him around in the game because she knows he has her back. He'll keep her around because he's her dad. In that way, they'll have a pseudo alliance with each other, but it is also going to make them each a bigger target for the rest of the guests who don't have something similar, going. Add Nick's blind devotion to the equation, and Danielle becomes too dangerous to keep around.

HD--like you I feel for Dick. I have a daughter with four granddaughter that I haven't seen or talked to in 2 1/2 yrs. Tried to no avail. Has been really hard. Just hope my death isn't what brings her to her senses. That is what happens to many times. I truly hope that Dani and Dick can mend all there heartaches. You could see where Dick was with the clips. Pray things will change for him.

I think ED is playing his own daughter and making himself look good on national tv, poor Dad, etc. Danielle is 20 and unforgiving and all the facts are not out there either. He will use her and anyone else in the BB house to the limit for his own advantage. Just hope someone will have the nerve to put him up for eviction next week, I for one am ready for him to leave with his baloney but BB's ratings are most likely up so doubtful that will happen, just hope that Kail will leave this week. I do think his thinking on Nick is right on regarding Danielle.

She is almost 21 but emotionaly 12. We don't know it all...she wants him to be a friend-he's a parent and sometimes being a parent reaaly sucks.

I just hope they seek professional counseling. I don't want to be reading about reality tv tragedy.

This whole situation highlights Danielle's own personal problems. Let's all remember that she is not only not talking with Dick outside the house but is also estranged from her brother and grandfather.

That says a lot about her and maybe she's the one who should seek treatment.

it is very hard to watch ED and dani's relationship attempt to heal - especially knowing that millions of people are watching....as a parent, i really feel bad for ED...seems to me that he is making a sincere attempt (not just playing for the camera)...however,to fix any kind of broken relationship both sides have to be willing to meet half way...seems like ED could stand on his head and spit solid gold coins, but if dani isn't willing to meet him somewhere near the middle, nothing will change..she has even admitted that in past he has tried and she hasen't.....and HD is 100% correct-no one is perfect!!! we have all done things we wish we could take back, or made decisions we are not proud of...dani needs to grow up and realize life is way to short, and it can be gone in the blink of an eye...she needs to learn how to forgive-before it is to late... hopefully BB8 will bring them closer if not heal their relationship!! i am pulling for them both, and i know personally that a daughter can forgive a father-and father can forgive a daughter-its called unconditional love....

ps....where is her mother in all this???,

I love ED. He is so out there. Dani on the other hand wears me out. All she does is sit around mooning over Nick. You can tell she is used to being the center of attention. She needs to go home already. I am sick of seeing her and Nick together ALL THE TIME! There are other HG but for some reason all you see on Showtime at night is the 2 of them. We get it already; they are a couple! I say boot her whiney butt out and keep ED I love him at night alone talking to us.

I think that they both should let it go for now. I think Dick could ruin any chances at reconciliation by forcing the issue now. Give things a rest. And let the guilt trip go by staying away from statements like "I don't have these kinds of problems with your brother" and "Your relationship with Nick is complicating my game."

Maybe Dani's way of moving on is to stand on her own without her parent hanging over her every move.
And I am totally suspicious of public therepy sessions. Not a good thing for anything except entertaining an audience.

HD - Dani and ED truely embody what part of the world is today...Parents and syblings separated that are trying to get back together. I am in a profession that sees what happens to children if parents split apart for what ever reason. Or, parents have children way to early in life and then have to give them up to someone else...

I truely am glad that they have Dani and ED on this season. I hope that the BB8's viewing audience will look at what THEY are trying to accomplish while on the show. I feel that they are both trying really hard to deal with thier past.

I hope that parents will see how hard it is for Dani and ED to talk to one another and put thier differences aside and try to come to an understanding and put what is in the best interest of the child first.

HamsterDame - Thanks for the great site.

Not sure if anyone else is following the thread at Survivorsucks.com from Dick's son, Vincent. He talks a lot about the relationship of all of them and how it got to where it is today.

Oh, Dick's mom is in the hospital with some kind of infection. For those of you inclined, you might want to keep her in your thoughts.

I feel for Dick, but I think Daniele is just going through some growing pains typical of girls of that age. Hopefully this experience will show her that her dad can be counted for support, both inside the house and outside.

From HD - Thanks for bringing that up PeggyG! Here is the link to the thread over at SurvivorSucks for anybody who's interested. Warning: It is a VERY long thread and continues to grow every day. LOL

after watching the 5 ED and dani talks again.....what is it exactly dani wants ED to be her father, her friend, or both??? she keeps changing her mind, so no matter what he does is wrong!! the girl needs some serious mental help.....she is mentally exhausting to watch...

I feel for them both! I was watching that last night, sitting here trying not to cry (and failing miserably at it too!) and wondering WHY CBS continued to air something so achingly personal, while knowing its because folks like me were watching it. Catch-22, huh?

I think it's clear that they are both in the wrong, and are so very much alike that it will take some serious work to come to an understanding. Danielle is young - very young, and she refuses to budge. 20 year old (and younger) girls don't want to give any ground, they want to fight continue to feel slighted and put upon and be seen as strong because they hold themselves above all the drama. They miss the fact that in doing so, they cause MORE drama - where working together, letting down some walls, meeting somewhere in the middle is much more effective. I don't think she's gonna realize that until a few more years, a little more living.

Not to say Dick isn't in the wrong at times too - he is. The difference being is he's realizing his mistakes. He knows he hasn't been there for her, and to see him break down in tears near killed me. It's clear that he does love his daughter, and this is hurting him too. He is unapologetically who he is at all times. He needs to tone it down with all the houseguests, and I hope they can see past his explosive HOH reign.

I do wish they could come to some kind of understanding in the house - even if it's a cordial, civil face put on things, so that their game can continue and they can then work on themselves out of the public eye. WHen one must go, I hope it's Daniele.

As for Nick. That little F****R pisses me off. Many think she's playing him, that he's so sweet - they forget that he put an ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE on an obviously over emotional girl and PREYED on that. Whether his feelings are real or not - look at it this way, if he REALLY cared for her, he would not have pressured her. All of his moon-eyed calflike devotion and "I really wanna kiss you.You make me wanna do stuff. I really really like you" BS he's drowning an obviously over-emotional child with would have been shoved aside and he'd be her FRIEND first. She has a BOYFRIEND. HE knew it, SHE knew it, and he is NOT blameless in her crossing any lines. I hope her boyfriend kicks Nicks ass after the show.

Grrr.

Lessa,
You said everything I was thinking!
Thank you!
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The other night Nick said (to Daniele, of course) how he wanted ONE person who would trust him completely in this game. I think that's been his strategy all along. He scoped out the situation and figured out that he could get that with Daniele, moreso than any of the other houseguests. THAT said - I think it's a stupid strategy. The old Danielle - during her first season and not the all stars - had that with whats-his-name, but it worked because it was SECRET. All it's doing now is putting a target on his back AND hers. And Dicks.

But . . . I'm not convinced he's not in "lust." BUT - - how the heck can it be any more than that? The girl doesn't talk! All he knows is what he sees and what he wants - - and that's an illusion; a facade. Heck - - he doesn't even know they can't go clubbing after the show; she's not 21!

Like many of you, I really feel for Dick when I see these interactions with Danielle. But I also feel for Danielle herself.
She was not yet ready to deal with this issue, she didn't ask for it, she didn't expect it and now here she is shut into a house on live tv with all of us watching, evaluating and critiquing what we see.
From what I can see, Danielle just does not have the life skills to deal with this. It is easy to forget that for many of us our views on life have changed by the experiences, pain and growth we personally have experienced. We (or at least I), have failed at relationships, both family and romantic, and have learned from these to persevere and build newer, better relationships. These skills did not spring fully formed at childhood (if they did for some colour me green - it isn't always easy for me to remember when I'm being bratty and what that is going to cost me if I don't let it go).
If Danielle had decided she wanted to move towards a resolution with this relationship and asked Dick to join her in the house that would be a different story.
If BB offered to provide them with conselling as they interacted - different story.
But here are 2 people who lack the basic skills to interact with each other.
I see Dick trying over and over not to over reach, not to send her away, not to be too much of himself. And truely, should he have to be someone he is not just for his daughter to accept him? Would that not be a lie in itself?

Danielle, he's not perfect, he's not always pretty, some of his manners are lacking. But he loves you, wants to protect you from harm, and wants to be present in your life. Do you know how many fathers there are out there who walked away with out a backwards glance? He is who he is, if you can move past that and not expect him to morph into Mr Cleaver or Bill Cosby you'll be a lot happier.

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ED looked like a real jerk and a total jerk on tonight's show. I think he is starting to lose it, he even made me feel a bit sorry for Kail.

Is Mike an idiot? Does he really think that he will make himself look loyal in everyone else's eyes? I have to agree with Dick that he made a very stupid move by trying to help Jen win the POV. He is either really brave and stupid or just plain dumb as a rock.

HD, thanks for posting that on your site. I am definitely with you and sympathetic to Dick. I am also understanding of Daniele as has having been estranged from my own family for several years. It's really hard to reconnect and it's a lot of work. I just about lost it when he asked her for a hug several times and I am glad she gave him one. Hopefully it shows to people who may not have had this kind of thing happen to them to realize things aren't as easy to fix as you think.

I think that Dani and Dick both need to grow up...
at times its very hard to watch these two together. I really think that cbs is spending way too much time on them, and Dani has way more issues than tissues....

Did I see pierced nipples on Eric??? I love it. He's such an unsuspecting character for piercings.

Thanks HD, it was nice to see something new on Daniele. I've got to side with Dick here, though. It's painful to watch every time he reaches out to her, and she rejects him. What did he do that was so terrible? I know we don't know the whole story, but the other night in HoH, Dick almost came out with it and Daniele completely flipped out. I'm thinking she doesn't come out of it smelling like roses either, in what ever it was that caused their estrangement.

I'm also kind of bothered that BB would use them as a storyline. Good T.V.? yes. But should we really be watching their lives unfold, and come apart at the seams? It just feels wrong. Either way, they won't be able to mend their fences in the house, but hopefully Daniele will take Dick up on his offer of Family Counseling ... it's the most sane thing he has said in that house.

You took the words right out of my mouth cutefemmegirl. I kept thinking the same thing that I shouldn't even be seeing this or they should have blacked it out because it's so personal and it wasn't about their game. It's about their life. They are real people who came to play a game but did not expect this to happen to them but they are in it and coping the best way they can.

And I am sick of people saying they need to "get over it" or "grow up". They must never had a falling out with someone they love and tried to reconcile because it's so hard. The hardest thing to do is just to open the lines of communication again and it's nice to see that Dick is trying to do that. Daniele doesn't know how to cope because she's only 20 and still has a lot of anger as she put her physical barrier during their talk. I know it's a game but this is a real father and a real daughter with real issues to overcome. Hopefully they go into counseling and try to learn how to communicate with each other in a positive way.

I would just like to say I wish they would turn that music on the houseguests real loud everytime they sing. Let them hear it every few minutes and see how they like it.

I think Dick is being, well a dick. It's too bad that he has to attempt to dominate and intimidate the whole house.

Whatever happened between he and Dani, whether it was over a loan or what, he was the adult when it happened and she was obviously an under 18 year old child. She's still very young, but watching the both of them it's had to tell sometimes who the child is and who's the parent.

I hope he's out of there soon.

I have had a similar situation with Danielle and her dad, my daughter is 19 and has the same type relationship with her dad. But the difference is, I am the one that has raised my daughter mentally, physically and financially on my own and her dad has lived his own life. Now that my daughter is 19, he's trying to enter back into her life but she says too little too late. But unlike Dick, he doesn't try to get in touch with her on a regular basis.

I feel for Dick because he does seem to be making an effort, I hope it's real and not just TV staged. Danielle seems very immature, I know she's only 20, but she seems to be a very needy person. She seems to put on a lot of her acting as well. There comes a time of life that you have to move on from the past, forgive a little, even forget some, and try to move on. She may never have that dad/daughter relationship, but maybe she can establish some type of relationship with him. But she does need to do a little growing up, she seems emotionally unstable.

She seems to need that constant care and constant attention, she's more like her dad than she wants to admit. I say good luck to them both and honestly, they both need counseling for this tattered relationship. (now if only my ex would see the need to have a real relationship with our daughter)

Dick has horrible communication skills.
Look at the way he uses personal intimidation against the houseguests. He gets in their heads and plays mindgames.
I am sure Danielle knows that and has been the victim of that herself.

Remember when Danielle told Dick in the HOH room that everyone in the house is mad and him and talking about his antics and how its not fair to her?
What did he do?
He manipulated the conversation to be how it was unfair to him what she was doing with Nick/
Hes very manipulative.

Having said that, I dont think she brings much value to the table.

She is a whiny little girl.
Every other word out of her mouth is "eeewwww"
She sits around stone faced in silence, unless Nick is around.

I do think Nick really likes her, and not just for the showmance factor.

I think her behavior has crossed the line where her boyfriend has every right to be pissed.

Danielle is a weak girl who needs the support of a Nick in this house, bc she has to deal with the whole Dad drama.

Nick is being a complete jerk for preying on this (even though he likes her) when she has a live in boyfriend.

Stupid for the game.
And even stupider for his character in life.
He is doing the full court press on her, and she cant say no.
What kind of a guy does that make Nick look like?

I watched some of Dick & Danielle's interaction on Show & I have to say, I'm really starting to feel for Dick, and think Danielle needs to do some growing up quick. What I watched, Danielle sat on the bed with her head burried in her hands, sniffing and whining (there were some tears, but mostly just igh-pitched screeching) refusing to say anything to Dick. Dick tried to get her to open up. Said he knew he made mistakes, that he's not perfect. Told her that he knew she didn't understand him, while he didn't understand her. And he asked her to PLEASE consider seeking some kind of theapy w/him when this (BB8) is all over. She wouldn't answer him. Sat there in silence.

To me, she came off as a spoiled brat who needs to grow up. I'm sure they've both done some things and said some things to each other over the years, but there comes a time when you have to say, "Enough is enough" and someone needs to reach out. It looks to me like Dick has tried again and again to reach out to Danielle, and all he gets is a door slammed in his face.

Was (Is) Dick the perfect parent? Probably not. But then again, how many of us had perfect parents??? How many of us watching are perfect parents? No one has all the answers.

Danielle needs to accept the fact that she'll never see eye to eye with her father, but the fact remains, he is her father. You only get ONE set of parents in your lifetime - you can't choose who you want to be your parent. The higher-ups make that decision for us. She doesn't have to LIKE her father, but she does have to respect him as a person, and realize that he's human too and will make mistakes. Just becuz he's the parent, doesn't mean he has all the answers and will always do the right thing.

I never heard what happened to Dannielle's mother & why she's not in the picture (is she?). Someone else here said it, but it deserves repeating - At 20 years old, Dick had enough sense to know that he wasn't ready to be a single parent. Instead of putting Danielle up for adoption, or worse, putting her in the foster system or the care of the state, he chose to leave her with his parents (Danielle's greandparents), who I'm sure gave her a loving home and plenty of support. She should be THANKING her father right now.

Dick's not perfect - and he's got a long way to go - but I feel bad for him right now, and after watching the other night, feel more sorry for him that I do Danielle. I think Danielle needs to grow up and stop thinking that the world revolves around her - she's no mistreated, abused or abandoned girl. She was left in the care of her grandparents, when her father was ill-prepared to raise her, but now that father is reaching out to her and she keeps slamming the door in his face.

Call me silly,but I cried. My heart went out to them both. However; as a parent I could not help feeling his pain. Dick is Dick and he does go way out there alot of the time. Those are the times you can't help wanting to just slap the S##t out of him and say what is this jerk doing. But last night for the most part I felt his heart breaking and then when they hugged. I turned into this big baby. What a night of pulling at the heart strings. Thanks for sharing Dick and Dani and I wish you both the best of luck with your future relationship. It is going to take time.
Thanks Silly Hamster for follow up on this subject